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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:01 AM
标题: 美国权威媒体《TAS·绝对的声音》评测挪威HEGEL H360多功能合并机
挪威HEGEL在美国累累引发关注，推出的每一款新产品几乎都受到《the absolute sound》等媒体的关注和推荐，与HEGEL的能紧跟上时代的潮流和快速的开发能力无不有关。目前新一代的合并机系列H80、H160、H360全部被美国权威音响媒体《TAS·绝对的声音》榜单推荐（之前的型号也上榜），一个品牌能一次性上榜多款产品，这是不多见的，显然HEGEL的强大控制力、良好的兼容性、多功能的操作对应得到了市场的认可。我们还可以看到HEGEL的售价都不是市场的高端，具有着良好的性价比。

美国《the absolute sound》第260期对旗舰合并机H360进行了深度的评论、第261期的年度编辑选择榜单上，对HEGEL H80、H160、H360、H30的入榜都进行了小评，英文好的烧友可参阅。

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:21 AM
2016 TAS 编辑选择榜

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:24 AM
Hegel H80
$1995

Those who are (sometimes
justifiably) frustrated with
escalating prices, take heart;
Hegel’s 75Wpc, solid-state
H80 integrated amplifier with
onboard 192/24 DAC answers
the call for high-performing
audio kit at a very reasonable
price. The H80 delivers a
nice measure of musical
verve, accompanied by a lack
of listener fatigue that one
rarely encounters in $3000
integrateds—let alone in one
priced at $2000. TAS’ 2014
Integrated of the Year. KM, 245

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:26 AM
Hegel H160
$3500

The Hegel H160 is an integrated
amplifier that sneaks up on you
rather than grabbing you by the
lapels. An elegant, self-effacing
amplifier, it offers performance
far exceeding its price. Not even
a smidgen of harsh distortion
is allowed to intrude upon the
sound. No, it doesn’t compete
in the category of the kilowatt
(and kilobuck) amplifiers put
out by the likes of Momentum
or Boulder;nonetheless, anyone
looking to assemble a reasonably
priced system would do well to
start here. 2015 Product of the
Year Award winner. JHb, 254

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:26 AM
Hegel H360
$5700

The Norwegian firm’s integrated
amplifiers have always been
overachievers, but the new
H360 is, by a wide margin,
Hegel’s most impressive effort
yet. With 250Wpc into 8 ohms
(420Wpc into 4 ohms) and 50%
greater current capacity than the
H300 it replaces, the H360 is
a powerhouse. But that power
comes with Hegel’s signature
virtues of gorgeous rendering
of timbre, a completely relaxed
and natural presentation devoid
of electronic artifacts, and spatial
dimensionality that competes
with expensive separates. To
top it off, the integral DAC is
outstanding, and fully up to
the quality of the amplifier’s
performance. Throw in network
connectivity and an innovative
feature that allows you to upgrade
the DAC section, and the H360
is clearly the integrated to beat at
this price. KM, RH, 260

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:28 AM
Hegel H30 Reference
$15,000

This Norwegian powerhouse
(375Wpc into 8 ohms) combines
the bass control and dynamic
impact of a dreadnought
design with a midrange and
treble refinement, delicacy, and
sweetness reminiscent of a
single-ended triode amplifier.
The midrange, in particular, is
highly vivid and present, with
a palpability and directness of
expression RH has not heard in
an amplifier near the H30’s price.
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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:45 AM
EQUIPMENT REPORT

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:46 AM
Hegel Music Systems, of Oslo, Norway, has developed
yet another fantastic-sounding integrated amplifier/
DAC. Hegel also makes preamps, power amps, and digital
products, but it is its continually evolving line of integrated
amps that, in a way, represents the heart of the company. Bent
Holter, the founder and chief engineer behind all things Hegel,
truly believes in bringing as much sonic performance, versatility,
and reliability to the music-appreciating public as possible for a
reasonable price. He applies his considerable engineering skills—
he holds a Master’s Degree in Semiconductor Physics from
Norway’s principal technical institute Trondheim University—to
designing high-performing audio products that will work in realworld
situations and can be purchased by ordinary citizens, not
just well-heeled aficionados.

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作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:47 AM
Background and Description

I have reviewed three other Hegel integrated amps over the past
few years, so I can understand that it may seem like I am “Mr.
Hegel” at the TAS table. Although other TAS writers (including
Robert Harley, Neil Gader, and Jacob Heilbrunn) have also
reported on Hegel gear—all positively—I am happy to review
yet another Hegel integrated amp because, among other things,
Hegel makes good products in general, and the company has
really pulled out all the stops with the H360 in particular. It is, to
give you my overall assessment upfront, a truly excellent amp. I
believe it can readily compete with separates costing more than
its $5700 asking price.

With 250Wpc into eight ohms (420Wpc into four) and a
damping factor of 4000, the H360 will drive a wide range of
speakers with ease. The H360 is equipped with two line-level
inputs, one RCA and one XLR, although a home-theater bypass
can be configured to function as a third unbalanced (RCA) linelevel
input. In addition, the H360 has a very good, on-board
DAC, capable of supporting 24/192 PCM files and native mode
DSD64 and DSD128. The unit also supports Apple’s wireless
AirPlay, and can function as a DLNA digital-media streamer/
renderer so you can connect a UPnP/DLNA-compatible
Network Attached Storage device (NAS) through your local
router and, voîlà, you have an amplifier that will play a lot of
different sources.

To my mind, the most important aspects of the H360’s
performance come from the analog sections of its preamp and
power amp. After all, a fantastic DAC can fall completely short if
the analog amplification is less than first-rate. For this reason, I
put the H360 through its paces primarily as a standard line-level
integrated amp, and only evaluated its very capable DAC once I
had established what the analog sections could do. (Fortunately
for me, it was through my listening to the H360’s NAS streaming
capability that I began to reevaluate my previously less-thanstellar
impressions of digital-file playback. The DAC can do
more tricks, but I will cover them further on.)

The H360 represents some of the latest engineering and
manufacturing acumen at Hegel. The company’s patented
SoundEngine technology has been further updated, and some
of the rigorous parts-matching protocols, once only applied to
Hegel’s top power amp (H30), are now also apparently applied to
the H360. To recap, one of the main aspects of SoundEngine is
a feed-forward technique that reduces noise and also specifically
addresses the crossover distortion commonly found in typical
Class AB amplifiers when one half of the output section hands
off the waveform to the other. SoundEngine adjusts the output
transistors’ biasing to accommodate ever-changing temperature
conditions—depending on signal fluctuations—rather than
setting a fixed bias for average conditions. The H360’s preamp
section has its own transformer to keep power-supply noise in
the current-supplying power amp section from interfering with
the more delicate signals in the voltage-gain preamp section. The
DAC has also been completely updated from the on-board DAC
in the H360’s predecessor, the well-regarded H300 (reviewed by
Neil Gader in Issue 233). I will compare the newer H360 to the
older H300 in greater detail later. While the H360 does not run
hot, it uses no switching power supplies or any mix of Class
D technology. It is a 45-pound Class AB amplifier all the way.
The cosmetics remain classic Hegel: simple, pleasant, subtle,
functionally proficient...Scandinavian.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:48 AM
Listening

The commanding, clean 250W output and variety of analog
and digital inputs would almost be enough to recommend the
H360 from the start, but Hegel offers much more than mere
competency. The real boon here comes from the H360’s revealing,
refined, and—best of all—musically compelling character. I
could hear more deeply into recordings than I had any reason to
expect from a $5700 solid-state integrated amplifier. Details like
singers’ lip sounds, guitarists’ fingers on strings, or drummers’
sticks on cymbals came through with clarity, and did so without
sounding hyped or forced. The ease with which these sorts of
musical cues flowed, coupled with stable solidity of imaging, lent
the sound a liquidity and body reminiscent of a well-balanced
tube amp. Likewise, the H360’s dynamic sure-footed rhythmic
drive underpinned the music in a way that propelled it along and
made all sorts of music interesting—also somewhat like a good
tube amplifier.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:48 AM
The H360’s tonal balance is not, however, traditionally tubelike
(as in a bit more weighted toward the midbass and midrange
with a softening of the extreme upper frequencies and perhaps a
slight reduction of definition and control in the low end). On the
contrary, another strong suit of the H360 is its apparent neutral
tonal balance—achieved without the price of sounding clinical
or characterless, as too many products with neutral ambitions do.
Hegel has a talent for delivering both tonal accuracy and musicality;
all four integrated amps, as well as its top P30 preamp and H30
power amp combo with which I have direct experience, have this
satisfying combination of fundamentally correct tonal balance and
musical verve. Hegel’s VP of Sales and Marketing Anders Ertzeid
told me, when I visited Hegel in Oslo in 2012, that Hegel does not
“voice” its products as such; rather, it pursues accuracy and noisereduction
through engineering and leaves tonal-shaping out of the
design process. Of course, designer Bent Holter and his colleagues
also listen carefully to various iterations of a given design, but
they seek technology-improvement solutions rather than tonal
adjustments. The results reveal a recording’s own character as well
as the music’s inherent thrust—a confluence of positive attributes
I more readily find in much more expensive electronics.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:48 AM
The H360’s midrange and treble openness really help flesh
out the leading edges and trailing tails of notes, as well as their
overall timbral character. This fine resolution and accurate
timbre, taken together, help make images properly positioned
and proportioned in the soundscape. Spatial cues add up to a
reasonable approximation of 3-D imaging and soundstaging—
in as much as this is possible for solid-state electronics under
$10,000. For example, instrumental images do not sound
recessed; indeed, leading-edge sounds indicate a distinctly closer
perspective, without making instruments seem disassociated
from the ensemble and the hall. Other Hegel integrateds have
this pleasant “greater context” presentation as well, although the
H360 portrays images better than any of the others I have listened
to extensively in my system (H80, H100, H200, and H300). The
H360’s apparent listener perspective is basically mid-hall, and
the overall soundstage is quite wide, tall, and deep. Soundstaging
is one of the areas of audiophilia where separate amplification
components—especially monoblock power amps—seem to hold
sway. An integrated amp can match or surpass some separates
in areas of resolution, tonal and timbral truthfulness, power,
and dynamic control, but the expansiveness of the outer reach
of the soundscape seems to be aided by the separation of the
primary amplification blocks—all other things being similar. I
will say, the H360 portrays images and a soundstage better than
any other sub-$10,000 solid-state integrated I have heard in a
familiar system.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:49 AM
Owing to robust power supplies and—as I believe Hegel
would suggest—other aspects of its designs, Hegel amps tend
to sound more powerful than their nominal power ratings would
suggest. The H360 did not disappoint. It drove all speakers I had
on hand with ease: YG Sonja 1.2, GamuT RS3, and Dynaudio C1
II. (I would hazard a guess that the H360 will even match up well
with power-hungry Maggies.) Like other powerful amplifiers, the
H360 conferred serenity to music listening, perhaps because it
doesn’t distort or strain on crescendos, as is often the case with
less powerful and clean-sounding amplifiers. Bass and dynamics
are well served, too. The H360’s bass always sounded deepreaching
and articulate, never weak or flabby. Macro-dynamic
swings could, in fact, be startlingly powerful and the power
region had plenty of slam.

Even though the H360 is powerful, with lots of commanding
grip and control, it still sounds beguilingly delicate and detailed.
An example of this “play big” and “play refined” ability came
through when I listened to the second movement of “Three
Meditations from Mass” on Bernstein [Oue, Minnesota, RR]. The
opening cello solo was rendered with fine detail and emotional
intensity, but when the orchestra joined in and welled up, the
weight and force of the ensemble was reproduced realistically
and with dimensional verisimilitude. No raggedness crept in, and
the soundscape did not congeal.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:51 AM
Comparisons

So how does the H360 compare to its progenitor, the awardwinning
H300? Both are rated at 250Wpc, but H360 has a damping
factor of 4000 where the H300’s is 1000. Thus the H360 will,
theoretically, offer even greater control over difficult speaker loads.
The newer model also boasts 50 percent higher current capacity.
The computer-controlled analog volume attenuators remain the
same, but Hegel says its new individual voltage regulators reduce
high-frequency noise. The new DAC has been extensively redesigned,
and much of it is actually based on Hegel’s top HD30
DAC. The USB input, according to Hegel, has a new receiver chip,
which supports DSD128, has better voltage regulators, and has a
superior “first-level” jitter-reducing layout. The new DAC chipset
is the AKM 4490 instead of the 4399 in the H300. Both models
sound very similar overall, but two performance areas add up to
significant improvements in the newer model: First, the H360
sounds smoother and more transparent, especially in the treble;
and second, the H360 is just plain more musically enjoyable. The
boogie or sadness or tension in the music registered more easily—
especially when the amp was mated to the wonderfully revealing
and involving GamuT RS3 speakers (review forthcoming).

What about going up in the Hegel line? The top-level P30
preamp and H30 power amp (reviewed by Robert Harley in
Issue 223) sounded even more solid and commanding, and the
soundscape expanded in all directions. The pre/power amp
combo also sounded more revealing, direct, and immediate—
quicker, so to speak. The H360 did, however, have a more liquid
and musically enticing presentation—at least when it was paired
with either the Gamut RS3 or Dynaudio C1 II speakers. To
my mind, the H360’s ability to perform so well when stacked
up against Hegel’s own $21k combo is highly commendable.
Hegel will probably cringe, here, but I am not at all sure the
roughly additional $15k for the P30/H30 would be worth it to
a lot of customers, even though the combo is technically

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:51 AM
The DAC

I compared the H360’s DAC to Hegel’s very nice sounding HD12
DAC ($1200) on its respective USB ports, and also listened to the
H360’s renderer/NAS functionality. On USB, I don’t believe I
could consistently tell which DAC was engaged if someone else
were operating the system. If I had to really seek out (or project,
some might assert) sonic differences, I would favor the sound
of the H360. It seemed to have a little less grain and sounded
a bit more natural overall. Mind you, the HD12 had compared
favorably against an Oppo HA-1 DAC (also $1200) in my system;
so, one could think of the H360’s DAC as equaling or surpassing
a $1200 separate DAC. BTW, since I have been listening to more
digital audio files in the last few months, I’ve discovered—like
many others have—that the quality of the USB cable can make
a substantial difference in sound. (Please see the sidebar about
Nordost’s excellent Heimdall 2 USB cable.)

The H360 also supports Apple’s wireless AirPlay, but the user
has to supply the wireless router. Hegel did not include an on-board
wireless receiver because it claims that would introduce too much
noise. Besides—from my own perspective—as wireless technology
advances, consumers can more easily advance with it by upgrading
the external wireless router. AirPlay works but is probably more

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:53 AM
appropriate for casual listening than serious audiophile sessions
at this point, sounding, in my opinion, a bit muffled and thin. It
will most likely appeal to many consumers, though, because they
can easily stream their music from familiar Apple devices to their
home system with the H360 as the main hub.

As I mentioned earlier, the real surprise on the digital side was
the H360’s streamer/renderer functionality. Using BubbleUPnP
software on an Android tablet, I could control the H360’s
renderer to play the files on the attached QNAP TS-251 dual
drive (configured and pre-loaded by Hegel). Digital files sounded
much more lifelike through the H360/NAS than through my HP
Envy 15t laptop running JRiver MC-20 and a HD12 DAC—even
when this setup was tricked out with a good power cord, power
conditioning, and aftermarket footers. The H360/NAS playback
was truly musically rewarding. It sounded like a hybrid between
my turntable rig and my regular universal-format disc player,
and all in good ways: clarity, musical fluidity, focus, and lack of
underlying graininess. Soundstaging and imaging also were more
fleshed out, and timbres sounded more natural. The renderer/
NAS method has the potential to turn this reluctant computeraudio
guy into a more receptive digital explorer. Hegel has yet
another trick in its digital repertoire, though.

If you already own a good stand-alone DAC (with a coax
input), and you want to make use of it to improve performance,
Hegel offers a neat DAC-loop feature on both the H300 and
H360. You can route any digital input’s signal (up to 24/192, no
DSD) on the H360 through its coax output to your outboard
DAC’s coax input, and then route the converted analog signal
from the external DAC back to the H360 through its balanced
analog XLR inputs. A couple of activation button selections on
the remote, and you now have cleaner, re-clocked, jitter-reduced
digital-file playback. I used it with both my computer and with
the NAS drive as sources, and it worked with both like a charm.
Everything sounded cleaner and more continuous through the
DAC-loop, with less interstitial haze, greater transparency, and
more 3-D depth.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:53 AM
Improvements

Could the H360 be better? Sure, at least one more analog input
would be nice. The home-theater bypass input should probably
be left as a single-purpose input, rather than allowing it to be
configured as another line-level analog input. The display doesn’t
bother me, but some folks might like an improved screen, in which
characters are nicer to look at, rather than the mix of somewhat
crude upper- and lower-case characters Hegel currently offers. I
realize there are probably good reasons why Hegel has not done
this already—increased cost, possibly lower reliability, and maybe
added noise. (I can almost hear designer Bent Holter grumbling.)

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:53 AM
Conclusion

The Hegel H360 is simply a marvelous piece of audio kit. Its neutral
tonal balance, articulate and lovely rendering of details, commanding
power reserves, spacious soundstaging, and natural imaging are
laudable. At $5700, as solely a linestage integrated amp of its quality
and power output, it is a bargain; the included nice-sounding and
versatile DAC makes it a real winner. I absolutely loved listening
to the H360. I never tired of its low noise, dynamic liveliness, and
winning musicality. A very easy recommendation.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:56 AM
Nordost Heimdall 2
USB Cable

Hegel’s Anders Ertzeid provided a two-meter run of Nordost
Blue Heaven USB 2.0 cable (starting at $249/1m) to
use with both the HD12 DAC and H360 integrated amp.
Because of a greater distance between my computer and
the DAC, I asked about getting a longer run. Accordingly,
Nordost’s affable and knowledgeable Jon Baker very
kindly sent along a three-meter run of Heimdall 2 USB
cable (starting at $499/1m). Not only did I then have a
longer length of cable to work with, but the sound quality
also improved substantially. I experienced, in my own
system, what others have been pointing out: USB cable
can greatly impact sonic performance. The Blue Heaven
USB cable was quite good, but I was impressed by how
much more detail, texture, body, and spatial information
came through with the Heimdall 2 USB cable in place.
It all added up to a more lifelike and enjoyable musical
experience.
I had heard a demo of Nordost’s complete line of USB
cables at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest 2011. A Nordost representative
started at the bottom of the line and worked
up the product offerings with ever-improving sonic performance
(and higher prices) at every cable swap. (At that
time, Nordost had carried more than three USB models.)
The source material remained the same, as did the volume
setting and the rest of the system. Only the USB cables
were changed. Every cable upgrade yielded more detail,
less grain, better spatial cues, and greater musical involvement.
My recent experiences in my own system with
this critical link in the digital chain confirmed my impressions
at the RMAF demo.

Bits are supposed to just be bits in the computing world.
If the digital stream makes it intact from output to the desired
input with the proper interface “hand-shaking,” the
cable is not supposed to matter, right? Well, what constitutes
“intact” on the audio side of digital signal processing
may be more involved than other common computing
tasks. In high-performance audio, the USB cable matters
a lot. In a way, it bothers me that the USB cable turns out
to matter as much as it does because it then becomes yet
another factor we need to pay close attention to—as if we
don’t obsess over enough already. On the other hand, better
sound is better, and if we know how to improve it, then
why not pursue it? Such is the nature of our hobby.

The sonic improvements brought about by the Heimdall
2 USB cable were highly instructive. Other writers—TAS’
Robert Harley, Steven Stone, Alan Taffel, and Neil Gader,
to name a few—have been commenting on the importance
of the USB cable, and I concur. Considering how much we
already spend on analog signal cables, $699 for a threemeter
run of Heimdall 2 USB cable seems to be in line with
current industry pricing practices. KM

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 11:57 AM
Robert Harley Listens
to the H360

I’ve long admired Hegel’s electronics for their fundamental
sense of musical communication and involvement.
These are amplifiers that go a long way toward making
you forget the playback system and just enjoy the music.
I listened to an H160 for about two months recently while
the Magico Q7 was being updated, and the Soulution electronics
made the rounds of some hi-fi shows. I found the
H160 to be a superb performer, and spent many enjoyable
hours with it.

As good an integrated as the H160 is, the H360, which
I auditioned in my reference system with the Magico Q7
Mk.II, is in another league. Hegel’s new integrated has
beautifully rendered timbre, with a smoothness and lack
of grain and glare that you expect from very expensive
separates. The lack of electronic artifacts overlaying instrumental
and vocal textures went a long way toward
engendering the relaxed engagement I felt when listening
to the H360. I was also impressed by the H360’s dimensionality
and totally natural rendering of a recording’s
spatial information. Again, this level of performance isn't
expected from an integrated amplifier.
But it was the H360’s bass extension, weight, dynamic
authority, and visceral drive that put this integrated amplifier
over the top. The H360 took iron-fisted control over
the Q7’s dual 12" woofers and 10" mid/woofer, delivering a
huge dose of physical involvement on rock and blues. Bass
lines were crystal clear and dynamic, with no hint of strain
from the amplifier. There was a sense of unlimited power
and dynamics, even on the most demanding orchestral
climaxes.

Finally, the H360’s DAC is exceptional. I drove the H360
alternately with the analog output of the Berkeley Alpha
Reference DAC, and with a USB source. Although not the
equal of the Alpha Reference (nothing is), the H360’s DAC
showed that it’s a big step up from the H160’s DAC and a
worthy addition to this outstanding integrated. In short,
the H360 is a terrific-sounding amplifier/DAC, as well as
an amazing bargain.

作者: 芍药 时间: 2016-6-12 02:03 PM
SPECS & PRICING

Power output: 250Wpc into 8
ohms, 420Wpc into 4 ohms
Analog inputs: Two RCA (one
switchable to HT bypass), one
XLR
Digital inputs: One coaxial,
three optical, one USB, one
Ethernet (RJ45)
Outputs: One fixed line level
(RCA), one variable line level
(RCA); one digital coax (from
digital inputs only); speaker
terminals
Frequency response: 5Hz–
180kHz
Damping factor: More than
4000 (main power output
stage)
Dimensions: 16.93" x 5.9" x
16.93"
Weight: 45.2 lbs.
Price: $5700
HEGEL MUSIC SYSTEMS
USA
East Long Meadow, MA
(413) 224-2480
usa@hegel.com
ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT
Analog source: Basis Debut V
turntable & Vector 4 tonearm,
Benz-Micro LP-S cartridge
Digital sources: Ayre C-5xeMP
universal player, HP Envy 15t /
JRiver MC-20, Hegel HD12 DAC
Phonostage: Ayre P-5xe
Linestages: Ayre K-1xe, Hegel
P30
Power amplifiers: Gamut
M250i, Hegel H30
Speakers: Dynaudio Confidence
C1 Signature, GamuT RS3, YG
Sonja 1.2
Cables: Shunyata Anaconda
ZiTron signal cables, Cardas
Clear Reflection, Nordost
Heimdall 2 USB, Audioquest
Coffee USB and Hawk Eye S/
PDIF, Shunyata Anaconda S/
PDIF, Shunyata Anaconda and
Alpha ZiTron power cords
A/C power: Two 20-amp
dedicated lines, Shunyata
SR-Z1 receptacles, Shunyata
Triton/Typhon power
conditioners
Accessories: Stillpoints Ultra
SS and Mini footers, Shunyata
Research DFE V2 cable
elevators
Room treatments:
PrimeAcoustic Z-foam panels
and DIY panels

作者: 小烧123 时间: 2016-6-15 04:35 PM

HEGEL在美国也这么受欢迎

作者: 飞行 时间: 2016-6-15 04:45 PM
h360内部怎么电线密密麻麻到处飞呀。设计时这些线不这样是不是音质会更好。我不懂说错了大家别介意哦。特别是各位老大 😄

作者: jp 时间: 2016-6-16 10:00 AM
标题: 回复 23# 的帖子
这样设计一定有它的道理，不必纠结，耳听为实。

作者: 小烧123 时间: 2016-6-16 01:05 PM
在美国这么发达这么多音响品牌的国家，HEGEL 都可以得到这么好的成绩，H360得到这么多赞誉，我想也不用再去纠结其他

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作者: anjing 时间: 2016-6-16 08:12 PM
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